tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post6546525657414836341..comments2014-03-19T13:08:53.256-07:00Comments on Miscellaneous Debris: This beat is my recitalJeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01504682800172878429noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-71212103062161260252009-07-02T06:24:25.740-07:002009-07-02T06:24:25.740-07:00Joyce, Amylia and I were just discussing this line...Joyce, Amylia and I were just discussing this line of where appropriation "ends" and plagiarism "begins". If a student "remixes" an essay, is it original? If a student "composes" a piece using the ideas of another essay, is that original? What does it mean to be original? Great post, and I agree, it's such a great time to work in education, to see how student writing evolves.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342997406388120205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-19587300621014605572009-06-30T10:09:21.873-07:002009-06-30T10:09:21.873-07:00Ditto Amy. I appreciated yours and Jeff's posi...Ditto Amy. I appreciated yours and Jeff's positive spin on the article--loosened up some of my blocks I had in place.Tom Bielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106719247756536620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-38490744665372945872009-06-30T09:27:20.414-07:002009-06-30T09:27:20.414-07:00Tom--I also agree with your comment about Rice'...Tom--I also agree with your comment about Rice's tone. I often rolled my eyes at the, "I'm-an-academic-only-speaking-to-other-academics" feel of it. I think this feeling, for me, may stem from the gap between high school teachers and university composition instructors that I see; I feel I'm always trying to bridge that gap, but never feel it reciprocated.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14660328835623797851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-42910436451959354822009-06-30T07:57:02.342-07:002009-06-30T07:57:02.342-07:00Hi Jeff,
Enjoyed reading your take on Rice. Whil...Hi Jeff,<br /><br />Enjoyed reading your take on Rice. While you seemed to absorb it readily, I struggled with it. I really struggled with his tone and with his assumptions. I did find much of what he said interesting and intelligent and often right on, just had a hard time with how he was saying it--so formulaic and un-cool, in a way. I think there is a difference in what the system expects of our student writers and what we as teachers expect. My guess is that as teachers, we always encourage mixing. We don't stifle creativity, at least, we don't try to. That's a fine line to tread, where we have to teach certain mainstream discourses while not crushing creativity. So, I think we often compensate by doing as much as we can to push creative thinking, to turn the picture around and look at it in as many dimensions as we can sneak in in that fifty-three minute class period! Thanks for your intelligent thoughts on Rice. They kind of temper mine a little bit.Tomhttp://bielpeople.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-30586208672051825322009-06-29T20:24:47.695-07:002009-06-29T20:24:47.695-07:00My school just dropped turnitin, which I have neve...My school just dropped turnitin, which I have never used. I agree about the way the system rewards formulaic writing. Lately we've been noticing, with ESL language proficiency measures as well as mainstream writing assessments, how the simpler, less sophisticated writing scores the points, where riskier, more creative, more interesting stuff does not.Elissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582500008798467815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3242163176575864655.post-7800551648844182592009-06-29T20:20:25.777-07:002009-06-29T20:20:25.777-07:00Very nice post! Love the link to turnitin, especia...Very nice post! Love the link to turnitin, especially. I, too, was pretty impressed with this article. I wish we had more time, in class, to play around with these ideas. It'd be so fun to collaboratively mix something larger than blog posts with our peers.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14660328835623797851noreply@blogger.com